MM2: Why do Hookmen hate being chased?

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MM2: Why do Hookmen hate being chased?

Postby Doof4294967296 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:29 am

So I tried to follow some hookmen in cruise mode. After a short while he go crazy and went somewhere else instead of finishing his scripted waypoints. After that he go stuck up beside a building near plaza and bumps himself several times until he get damaged out. What is the meaning of these? the opponent players still continues no matter how long you follow them. But the hookmen? Anyone experienced this? :roll:

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Postby HummersRock » Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:41 pm

What's a hookman? Is it like Freddy Krueger but with hooks?
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Postby zoot » Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:54 pm

Yeah, what's a hookman?
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Postby Diatosta » Sat Jan 03, 2015 3:33 pm

Wasn't it an AI car that was in some file somewhere and could be activated changing a few lines? I remember there being some mods that used this :?
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Postby zoot » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:21 pm

I know they're in the race file or something.
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Postby Seahawk » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:47 pm

Do you mean a traffic vehicle chasing a player, ramming it and then stopping. And then moving after a short while.
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Postby Doof4294967296 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:07 am

No guys you don't understand hookmen are AI cars like opponents that are considered not included in a race. And they are also Invisible in the map. hookmen are not traffic cars either. They are included on a race aimap.

Take a look at my roam.aimap_p:
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vpmustang99 58.999908 -0.000300 71.631035 -110.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
vpbug -384.070313 24.455929 991.674805 0.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
vpcaddie -877.523987 30.741737 826.609314 -40.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
vppanoz -971.065918 37.324619 467.525024 -90.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
vpdune -2134.142334 16.241663 262.589600 0.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
vppanozgt -1760.759644 51.265488 864.955811 -270.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
vpvwcup -620.309998 19.985794 -40.016907 0.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
vpauditt -415.539673 59.066589 -525.461121 -180.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
vpdb7 -931.095459 41.072556 -273.664734 0.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
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vpcop -2134.822754 15.537078 -20.912214 0.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
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vpcop -1006.176697 90.375160 65.843079 0.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
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vppanozgt -173.905060 13.183800 501.304718 145.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
vppanozgt -1793.021851 30.402100 -2550.466797 -180.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
vp4x4 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000
vppanoz -1793.021851 30.402100 -2550.466797 -180.000000 0 15 0.500000 50.000000

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vpf355 roam-x-1.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 1.000000
IRTpanozNOS roam-x-2.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 5.000000
vpdeathcar roam-x-3.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 1.000000
s4stradale roam-x-4.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 1.000000
vptoyotaMR2 roam-x-5.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 1.000000
vpredcar roam-x-6.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 1.000000
stra roam-x-7.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 1.000000

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eclipse roam-x-0.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 1.000000
vpbullet_m roam-x-1.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 1.000000
vppanozgt_m roam-x-2.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 1.000000
stra roam-x-3.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 1.000000
ecl_x roam-x-4.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 1.000000
IRTpanozNOS roam-x-5.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 5.000000
vpfirebird roam-x-6.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 1.000000
vppanozgt_mb roam-x-7.opp 1.00 0 150.000000 0.900000 1 0 0 0 0 1.000000

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Postby BUGATTIMAN253MPH » Sun Jan 04, 2015 4:39 am

Are they what are used to simulate the bandit car being chased by Sheriffs from around Soma around the city and down past hyatt in Classic Madness? I always found that the Sheriffs got damaged out just as they exited the highway.
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Postby zoot » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:33 pm

So they follow the race but aren't opponents?
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Postby BUGATTIMAN253MPH » Sun Jan 04, 2015 5:24 pm

So they follow the race but aren't opponents?
They follow the race but don't show up as opponents on the map, no purple triangles, no purple triangle floating above the cars, sort of like a hidden opponent.
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Postby EnzoSkylineMiura » Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:39 pm

Wow, that's almost... creepy.. lol :tongue:
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Postby Seahawk » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:47 am

Looks that you have discovered something new! Congratulations!

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Postby zoot » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:15 pm

Looks that you have discovered something new! Congratulations!

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Postby Jimmy89 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:57 pm

I didn't know these "hookmen" existed in MM2, despite having messed around with roam aimap files for cops and opponents. :o

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Postby Seahawk » Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:52 am

Can you show a SS?
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